
US President Donald Trump has said he “cannot” forgive his enemies and never would, even if this means he would be shut out of Heaven.
He said he’d rather languish in the afterlife than forgive his enemies.
“I hope so,” Trump told Douthat. “I don’t want to go to hell.”
The interviewer then switched the conversation to a statement Trump made at the funeral for slain right-wing political activist Charlie Kirk.
Douthat recalled Trump’s statement at the memorial, where he said “I hate my opponents and don’t want the best for them”.
The journalist then asked Trump, “All you have to do to enter paradise is feel love and forgiveness for [former FBI director] James Comey, [former Speaker of the House] Nancy Pelosi, anyone who you have expressed hate for over the years. Do you think you can do it?”
Trump replied that he finds those named to be “extremely dishonest people, very bad people, very bad for our country,” before Douthat asked him if the answer to the question is “no.”
“The answer is no,” Trump said. “I want to be honest.”
When Douthat stated that this means he would be denying those who wronged him forgiveness before “the judgment throne of God,” Trump doubled down.
“Before the judgment, no. I think they were very bad people,” he said.
“I do hate some of my enemies. I think they’ve been terrible. Look what they’ve put me through, the weaponization. I got indicted. I got impeached,” Trump told Douthat.
Douthat then asked Trump how a man with “the most charmed and remarkable life of any American in my lifetime” can’t bring himself to forgive his enemies.
But Trump was not moved and he insisted he will not forgive.
“I probably cannot do that, no, because I do hate some of my enemies and I always will,” Trump said.
See video below.
What does President Trump think will happen to him after he dies? “I'm a religious person, so in theory I go to heaven…I don't want to go to hell,” he answers. https://t.co/EvX8pM7G9g https://t.co/AMdFaexjET
— 60 Minutes (@60Minutes) November 9, 2026
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